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Old Oct 7, 05, 02:07
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Current science believes that mass and energy are "somehow" different forms of the same thing. Science believes that mass can be converted to energy and energy to mass and that they're interchangeable. What science hasn't realized is that all energy is connected. The reason WHY science hasn't come to this realization will be explained now.

There are a great many things that science has not been able to explain. Part of the problem that people don't think about, is that science can only explain science. Science can only explain the visible, or the observable. If there are things that are too small or too large for science to detect, then it won't be able to properly explain things. Science can also only explain things based on our current science. But when new and different scientific theories are discovered we have to change the way we look at things. This has recently happened with Quantum Mechanics, Special Relativity, String Theory and also a completely different way of looking at everything with Expansion Theory in a book called "The Final Theory". How do we know which one(s) are true? Will they ever find a common ground and discover the ultimate Truth or the Theory Of Everything? What if science isn't even the way to finding the Truth? What if there was an alternative to science in knowing the Truth?

Everything is always working together for the good of the whole. Individual cells in our bodies work together to make a whole thing such as your heart or lungs. Your heart and lungs each as a whole then do their part for the good of the mind and body. Our mind and body then work together for the good of the whole person. Our actions as people then contribute to the whole of society. Our thoughts are also working for the larger whole. The sun and moon are working for the good of Earth. Every individual thing in existence whether it's a tiny little atom or an entire ocean is all working for the greater whole. You can clearly see this is obvious. It's the nature of the entire universe. But what exactly is this larger whole that everything is working for? The universe? No, because science has theories that there is more than one universe. What are all these universes working together for? There are things too big, or too small, depending on how you look at it, that science hasn't been able to observe and detect.

Everything whole and part of a whole as a whole itself has a unique vibrational rate. An example of this would be a tire on a car having one frequency while the car as a whole having a different frequency. Everything in the universe has a different vibrational frequency. All people, all acts, all words, all intentions, all sounds, all colors, all animals, all plants, all minerals, all substances, and all the different planes of existence have a unique vibrational frequency. To the observations of science, all these things are different and unique, if they exist at all. In Truth however, these differences are an illusion because all things branch from One source. If they all come from One source, they are One source.

This One source is what we call God. This "God" is essentially an "energy" of Love. We exist because of It's Love for us. We are all just extensions of this "God". Which means All things are God. All is One. Just as "God" is a term we use to describe a "thing", so is the word "energy". Energy is not necessarily what we think it is. Energy and matter are not different forms of the same thing, they ARE the same thing. The properties of atoms, electrons and mass don't actually work the way we currently believe they do. This is fully explained with Expansion Theory in "The Final Theory". It doesn't matter which of the words you use because you're describing the same thing.

One of these things that science has not been able to detect is an extremely thin line of "ether" or "akasa" that connects all the varying frequencies of all "energy" or "mass". There are five different types of this ether. Soniferous, tangiferous, gustiferous, odoriferous and luminiferous. These are the makeup of akasa, air, water, earth and light as well as sound, touch, taste, smell and color. Which means that there are not four elements, there is only one. The nature of God is too small to detect by ways of current science.

This ether is a very old theory that science has given up on because it couldn't prove it existed. People that only believe in science are probably wondering how this ether is known about if science hasn't proven that is exists. This is because when people become fully enlightened, they are One with all things. Their soul can leave their body and be everything and be anywhere they wish. This Oneness also includes the consciousness that we are all connected to, which is all knowledge that can possibly be known. If they want to know something, they just do.

Science cannot explain all things, it's as simple as that. This is God's plan. The reason science cannot explain God or even recognize that It might actually be existent is because science involves satisfying and feeding the mind. Since it is the selfish mind we are supposed to give up and overcome, science will never accept or know God. Only once we are willing to lose our egos and self can we experience God. God is selfless, as should we be. If you live as your mind wants you to, you will never know God. God can only be known to the individual by experiencing It firsthand. To experience God, we must be honest about wanting to change our lives for Him. You MUST be willing to accept God. There is no "but" about this. God exists and you are a part of It.

Science TRYS to know things, while God already knows. As we advance spiritually, our frequency changes. When enlightenment has been reached we can harmonize our frequency with anything we choose becoming One with it and All things. We as humans can learn to change these frequencies within ourselves for many different purposes. Healing ourselves and others, psychic abilities, telekinesis, soul travel, etc. We are One with everything. Essentially, we all have the power of God once we learn how. If you reach Oneness and come to the realization that you ARE God, then you will know all things as well.

Would you rather know, or try to know?

If the Theory Of Everything turns out to be God, will you then be willing to give up your mind and accept It then?
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Old Nov 30, 05, 02:50
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all right, I'll go ahead and ask a dumb question...
What religion do you profess?
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Old Nov 30, 05, 05:12
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No religion. Just the truth. All religions have basis of truth because at one point they were Absolute Truth. Over time, people change and manipulate the truth either deliberatly or out of misunderstanding because they haven't fully experienced "God" for themselves.
If you look at religions as if they were puzzles and you look into all the different religions, you quickly realize that all of them have peices missing. Some more than others and they each have different peices missing. But NONE of them are complete.

Religions should not be about beliefs. Beliefs can be dangerous. They hold us back and they keep our minds closed. Beliefs keep us ignorant. Always think for yourself. Question, reason, contemplate and use logic for EVERYTHING. After that, if something seems to be beneficial, try it for yourself with an open mind of the results one way or another. You will then experience it for yourself and then you will KNOW for yourself. Think, do, experience and know for YOURSELF. Please don't believe.
Faith in knowing is beneficial. Blind faith in beliefs usually only causes problems.

If you are open to the idea of there being something we call God, then would it not make sense that It knows what is best for us, both as individuals and as a whole? This "God" just simply IS and It will not interfere in the free will that It gave us unless we specifically ask It to. But, if we ask It to, it will not interfere with the free will of others. So, it is up to the INDIVIDUAL to seek It out for THEMSELF. There are several ways of doing this. Some of the easiest and most widely used are simply prayer and meditation. If we use these two things as a single method, it is HIGHLY effective.

Sit yourself down in a comfortable place where there won't be any distractions. On the floor or in a chair, it doesn't matter. Make sure you won't be prone to falling asleep though. All you have to do is focus on asking for ONE thing at a time. This will only work if you are open minded to anything happening and only if you are completely honest about what you are asking for. It won't work if it's for selfish gain. Are you willing to give up yourself for the good of the world/universe? Here's a few that are sure to get results:
"Please show me Truth"
"Please use me to my utmost potential so I may benefit All"
"Please fill me with your Love wholely and completely"
"Thank you for my existence, thank you for EVERYTHING"

Close your eyes and just repeat one of these over and over and over again. You can do this out loud or even in your head, it makes no difference as long as you are honest. Do this for at least 20 minutes each day but don't keep a clock within visual range because that'll just be a distraction. Don't expect instant results, it could take a couple weeks, possibly even longer. Although, sometimes it CAN be instantaneous. Keep up the practice and it WILL happen. Keep in mind, there is no such thing as a co-incidence and this MIGHT be how truth comes to you throughout your daily living. You'll come to see "miracles" as a regular occurance. This is actually NORMAL.

Meditation will probably be difficult at first as the mind will continously wander, but just bring your mind back to the point of focus as soon as you realize it's off course. This will probably happen repeatedly. Just like anything else, it gets easier the more you practice. If you keep up the practice you'll eventually have full control over your mind rather than it controlling you. The advantages to this are HUGE.

Is 20 minutes a day too much time out of your life in order to discover higher truths? What are your priorities in life? Irrelevance or Truth? That decision is solely YOURS to make.

Remember, "God" is not some outside thing. It is the energy of ALL things and It is WITHIN you. You should be looking within for ANY answers you may have in life. Ask and ye shall receive. It's really that simple and yet so few people are willing to try it. The Truth is already inside you and it is just sitting there waiting to come out. Are you willing to step outside the box? Are you willing to change who you THINK you are? Are you wanting to make yourself a better person?

I hope the answer to these is "Yes" because nothing worthwhile is ever accomplished by perpetuating the same old actions and thought patterns. The one thing that is always constant in the universe is CHANGE and the time for change is always NOW. WASTE NO TIME.
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Old Nov 30, 05, 14:27
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Those are very nice thoughts.
I am not an overly spiritual person.
I have read the bible and many parts of the quran, so I am familiar with god quite a bit. I do incline to believe the theory of evolution over creation. I also believe man went to the moon. Most Muslims don't believe the USA went to the moon or that the Soviets flew around it while we were there. The bible can not explain everything that we know scientifically and if we stuck to just the sciences of the bible and put aside modern science we would be lost as a society. There is too much to give up and important things we'll never find out if we stick to just the teachings of the bibile.

I respect your opinion and I think if people really try that there just might be room for God and science.
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Old Dec 1, 05, 02:50
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You say you are not an overly spiritual person, but we are not humans having spiritual experiences. We are spiritual beings having a human experience. We are in reality, Soul. That is our true nature. Soul is like a spark of "God". God is pure Divine Love and we are the same because we are a part of It. We are like little "Gods", if we would only take the time to realize it. This can be done while still here in this physical world. This is what we are SUPPOSED to be doing. The physicality of this body and the world around us are nothing more than an illusion. We are only temporarily inhabiting this mind and body. Our goal is to FULLY realize our true nature and have Soul do it's work through the mind and body, thus becoming a co-worker of God. That is why we are here. If we are doing anything less, we are mostly just wasting time.

There is of course room for both God and science. Although, science could advance FAR more quickly and with far fewer errors with the help of the little God inside us. Soul already KNOWS what needs to be done. Every one of us agreed to accomplishing a specific task in this physical world before we came here. This specific purpose suits who we are as an individual PERFECTLY. There is no greater happiness when this is done! The feeling of absolute completeness fills you when you do. I have already found mine. Have you found yours? It's not what your mind tells you it is. It's not a "job" or "career" that your mind has chosen in order to fulfill "happiness". It's probably not anything you expect it to be. Wouldn't you like to discover the reason you exist in this physical world? This is the big "WHY?" question so many people ask and the way to finding it is already in my last post in the list of prayer/meditations. And it's so SIMPLE to do.

Whether we landed on the moon or not is actually quite irrelevant because this information doesn't feed the Soul. You used the word "believe". Would you not rather KNOW, instead of just believing? The only way a person can know is by doing and experiencing for themself. Actually, evolution is the process in which God creates. It's not one or the other, it's both. The Adam and Eve story is metaphors and should not be taken literally. All things are energy and energy is always in motion. Motion is creation and evolution at the same time. Energy cannot be created nor destroyed because energy is "God". We do however, have the ability to mold and shape the energy of all things with out minds, with our thoughts and with our imagination. What we create in our heads can become a physical reality. By doing this we are creating just as "God" Itself does. But this takes practice just like anything else in life. We can literally manifest a new house or car with our THOUGHTS. It will just simply come to us. The universe can see EVERY available option there is in order to get this done while our physical eyes and minds have a very narrow field of vision and can only see a very limited amount of options. We can literally create the world around us with our THOUGHTS. For the beginner, there are specific ways that have to be followed in order to do this. The way we shape this physical world and create the way we do right now, is nothing compared to our true capabilities. We are essentially, little Gods. Currently we only use a small part of our physical brains and science has shown this clearly. Through meditation we can activate those dormant parts most people don't use. These dormant parts are where our sixth sense lies. Psychic abilities, telepathy, telekinesis and knowing ANYTHING are some of these abilities. By developing these skills we are evolving mankind. Science has just recently proven that certain parts of our brains actually grow in physical size in those who practice meditation.

Our individual actions (physical and mental) are part of that creation and evolution. All things are connected and we are part of the All that is ever creating and evolving. People need to start being responsible for the thoughts in their heads because those thoughts affect others. It affects the All. Love is more powerful than negativity, and so, Love can affect negativity more than negativity can affect Love, if it is able to at all. You can actually add more Love to the entire world just by THINKING it and it WILL have effects, even though you can't see it. This is another way meditation should be used. This will be a huge part in the making of world peace, which will soon happen. Please don't get caught up in all the negativity the media feeds us. That negativity is nothing more than a form of control that keeps us from thinking for ourselves.

The bible is lacking a lot of truth and much of the truth that is in it, is metaphors and symbolism. Very few people understand the true meaning of these metaphors. Again, the problem with beliefs comes in. Some of the bible is just not truth at all because it was put together by people who were wanting to keep control over others. Back then the church was the government and the church ruled all. The church wanted nothing but to control the people. 2000 years later and people are still following the half-truths and lies for no other reason than BELIEFS. The bible is mostly the word of man, not the word of God. If you'd like some true Holy Books, try The Vedas or Bhagavad-Gita. There is far greater truth in them. There is also a small straight-to-the-point Holy Book that is only 6 pages long in which you will soon discover.

The Truth will never be FULLY found by any science or in any book. They can only give us little cupfuls out of an ocean's worth of Truth. Real Truth can ONLY be found within the individual by doing and experiencing firsthand.

It was mentioned earlier that I had already found my reason for existence. If you'd like to know what that is, click on my name and visit my homepage.
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Those are very nice thoughts.
I am not an overly spiritual person.
I have read the bible and many parts of the quran, so I am familiar with god quite a bit. I do incline to believe the theory of evolution over creation. I also believe man went to the moon. Most Muslims don't believe the USA went to the moon or that the Soviets flew around it while we were there. The bible can not explain everything that we know scientifically and if we stuck to just the sciences of the bible and put aside modern science we would be lost as a society. There is too much to give up and important things we'll never find out if we stick to just the teachings of the bibile.

I respect your opinion and I think if people really try that there just might be room for God and science.
Bible is not a Text book on Science.You say you believe in Evolution. Well, you can have your opinion. Did you know that Evolution violates all the laws of Physics, Chemistry and Biology? Have you ever though about the origin of life? IS life made up of bunch of chemicals?

Life in a single celled organism is too complex for man to comprehend. To believe that this came into existence by self organization and random selection is preposterous atleast for me. Chemical evolution is impossible.
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I heard a man say a couple of weeks ago, that to believe that man evolved from nothing to what he is today, I could more believe that the Webster dictionary was formed when a printing company blew up and formed the dictionary. I would say I could believe the dictionary possibility more than evolution. God created the heavens and the earth....the job of science is to understand it and figure it out.........not to change it when he can't. I am a biology teacher.........I have studied both evolution and creation, neither can truly be proven, neither can be recreated, both take faith. I would prefer to have faith in a loving God rather than some randum chance that is to outrageous to even consider. That is what I believe and I am sticking to it. I know whom I believe. God bless you guys.






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Bible is not a Text book on Science.You say you believe in Evolution. Well, you can have your opinion. Did you know that Evolution violates all the laws of Physics, Chemistry and Biology? Have you ever though about the origin of life? IS life made up of bunch of chemicals?

Life in a single celled organism is too complex for man to comprehend. To believe that this came into existence by self organization and random selection is preposterous atleast for me. Chemical evolution is impossible.
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Religions should not be about beliefs. Beliefs can be dangerous. They hold us back and they keep our minds closed. Beliefs keep us ignorant. Always think for yourself. Question, reason, contemplate and use logic for EVERYTHING. After that, if something seems to be beneficial, try it for yourself with an open mind of the results one way or another. You will then experience it for yourself and then you will KNOW for yourself. Think, do, experience and know for YOURSELF. Please don't believe.
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